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Why did Liu Xiu raise troops and many Liu clans supported him, while Liu Bei raised almost no clan support?

author:Historical research on the monarch of a country

Liu Bang raised troops to establish the Western Han regime, and after 210 years of development, Wang Mang usurped the throne and established a new dynasty.

In the early years of the new dynasty, the population of the Han clan was estimated to be more than 100,000 people, of which there were about 1,000 people in the emperor's close branches, and the others were relatively distant, just like Liu Xiu and Liu Bei, who were almost like ordinary people.

By the end of the Eastern Han Dynasty, the population of the Han clan will only continue to grow, from the total population, the population of the Eastern Han Dynasty is twice the population of the Western Han Dynasty, and the Han clan is twice as much as the Western Han Dynasty, that is, about 200,000 people.

"The Book of the Later Han Dynasty, the Biography of the Four Kings and Three Marquis of the Clan, the King of Qiwu": So he dispatched relatives and guests, so that Deng Chen started Xinye, Guangwu and Li Tong, and Li Yi started in Wan. Bosheng spontaneously sent the children of Lingling, a total of seven or eight thousand people, deployed guests, and called himself the Zhutiandu Department. Liu Jia, the clan of the clan, went to lure Xinshi, Pinglin Bing Wang Kuang, Chen Mu, etc., and marched together, Tu Changju and Tangzi Township, killed Huyang Wei, and entered Jianyang, because he wanted to attack Wan. To Xiao Chang'an, he fought with Wang Mang's former team doctor Zhen Fu and Zhengliangqiu. The sky was dense and foggy, the Han army was defeated, his sister and brother Zhong were killed, and dozens of people died from Zongcong.

When Liu Xiu's brother Liu Xuan raised his army, he gathered seven or eight thousand people, all of whom were the children of Chungling, not including the number of Liu Xiu, Li Tong, Li Yi and others who raised troops in Wancheng.

Why did Liu Xiu raise troops and many Liu clans supported him, while Liu Bei raised almost no clan support?

Liu Xiu

Liu Xuan sent Liu Jia of the clan to lure Xinshi, Pinglin soldiers Wang Kuang, Chen Mu and others, marched together, slaughtered Changju and Tangzi Township, killed Huyang Wei, marched to take Jianyang, and took advantage of the situation to attack Wan.

went to Xiaochang'an and fought with Zhen Fu, the doctor of Wang Mang's front team, and Zhengliang Qiuci. At that time, the sky was dense and foggy, the Han army was defeated, his sister Liu Yuan and brother Liu Zhong were killed, and dozens of people died in the clan following the uprising.

The backbone of Liu Xiu and Liu Xiu's army was the Han clan relatives in the Nanyang area, and dozens of people died on the battlefield in the first uprising, which shows that the clan has a large population, and most of them support the uprising of Liu Xiu's brothers.

In addition to Liu Xuan and Liu Xiu, there were many Han Dynasty clans who rebelled, such as Liu Xuan, the first emperor, who was Liu Xiu's brother.

There are also Guangluxun Liu Ci, former Zhongwu Marquis Liu Wang, Liu Xiu's nephew Liu Zhi, Liu Xiu's uncle Liu Liang, Liu Lin, the son of Zhao Miao King of the former Western Han Dynasty, Liu Jie, the son of the Guangyang King of the former Western Han Dynasty, Liu Yang, the king of Zhending, Liu Yong, the king of Liang, etc., these are all relatives of the Han family.

Among them, Liu Xiu's nephew Liu Zhi, Liu Xiu's uncle Liu Liang, and Zhending Wang Liu Yang all supported Liu Xiu, and there was a powerful clan force in Liu Xiu's regime, while the other force was Nanyang and Hebei Haoqiang Group.

Why did Liu Xiu raise troops and many Liu clans supported him, while Liu Bei raised almost no clan support?

Liu Xiu was called emperor

Relatively speaking, Liu Xiu, who established the Eastern Han Dynasty, raised troops and won the support of many Liu clansmen, while Liu Bei, who established the Shu Han regime, almost did not receive the support of the clan, mainly for three reasons:

1. Liu Xiu's army was driven by the entire clan to raise troops together, and Liu Bei's army was raised by himself.

Liu Xiu and his brother Liu Xuan led the entire Nanyang Liu clan to raise troops together, and most of the seven or eight thousand people recruited by the two brothers were children of the Liu clan.

The fundamental reason why so many children of the clan supported the Liu Xiu brothers was that the world at that time was the regime established by Wang Mang of the new dynasty, and the Liu family was no longer a royal family, but the Wang family was the royal family.

Wang Mang moved the interests of all the Liu royal family, the Liu royal family will inevitably raise troops against Wang Mang, this is the general trend, anyway, they have to raise troops, they have to support a leader, Liu Xiu is the leader of the Liu clan in Nanyang, and the children of the local clan will naturally support their brothers.

When Liu Bei raised his army, the world was still the Eastern Han Dynasty regime, the emperor was still the emperor of the Han Dynasty, there was no change of dynasty, the Liu family was still the imperial family, and the court did not move the interests of the Liu clan, and some people could still inherit the title of the Han Dynasty.

Why did Liu Xiu raise troops and many Liu clans supported him, while Liu Bei raised almost no clan support?

Liu Bei

Liu Xiu's army was to rebel against the imperial court, which was the will of the people at that time, Liu Bei's army was to fight the Yellow Turban Army and fight for territory, which was a completely different concept, not every Liu clan member had to rely on fighting the Yellow Turban Army to fight for titles and official positions like Liu Bei, after all, the risk was too great.

And Liu Bei is different, his grandfather was a county magistrate, his father died early, the family was poor, and even his study was funded by his uncle Liu Yuanqi, but Liu Bei raised troops, Liu Yuanqi did not subsidize, Liu Bei relied on businessmen to fund the Yellow Turban Army.

Liu Bei's family is poor, and he has to rely on fighting the Yellow Turban Army to achieve his ideals, and his people don't need it, so they naturally won't support him.

2, Liu Xiu has power and prestige, but Liu Bei's power is too weak.

After Liu Xiu raised his troops, he defeated the new army many times in the Nanyang area, and also defeated the main force of the new army in the Battle of Kunyang, and became famous in one battle.

Liu Xiu's eldest brother Liu Xuan is brave and resourceful, and has a certain prestige in the Nanyang area, and the Liu clan in the Nanyang area originally supported Liu Xuan as the emperor, but the number of Green Forest Army in the rebel army was large, and Liu Xuan could not afford to offend, and the Green Forest Army did not want to make Liu Xuan the emperor, but set Liu Xuan as the emperor.

Later, Liu Xuan killed Liu Xuan, although he did not kill Liu Xiu, but Liu Xiu was already prestigious, although he was rejected by Liu Xuan, but in terms of ability and prestige, he far surpassed Liu Xuan, which is also the reason why Liu Xiu later gained a lot of support.

Why did Liu Xiu raise troops and many Liu clans supported him, while Liu Bei raised almost no clan support?

Liu Bei married the niece of Liu Yang, the king of Zhending

Although Liu Xiu went to Hebei alone, he soon won the support of Shanggu and Yuyang County, and married Liu Yang, the king of Zhending, to obtain the support of the other party.

As long as there is the strength to compete for the world, there will be more and more people to support it, including the Liu clan, as long as Liu Xiu becomes the emperor, then the Liu clan will become a royal family again, and there will be many people who naturally support it.

And Liu Bei's power is too weak, at the beginning of Liu Bei's army, it was an inconspicuous small team, and he finally became an Anxi county lieutenant because of his merits, but he was dismissed again.

After that, Liu Bei took refuge in all kinds of ways, took refuge in Gongsun Zhan, refuge in Tao Qian, refuge in Lu Bu, refuge in Cao Cao, refuge in Yuan Shao, and refuge in Liu Biao, although many people say that Liu Bei is a hero, but there is no place for heroes, Liu Bei's power is too weak, and it is not enough to compete for the world, so naturally no one takes refuge.

Liu Bei had three periods in his life when he had the most talents who took refuge in him, one was when he served as the assassin of Xuzhou, the second was when he occupied the three counties of Jingzhou, and the third was when he captured Yizhou.

As long as there is territory and strength, there are many people who come to take refuge, and if there is no territory and strength, no one will take refuge, not everyone is a person like Guan Yu and Zhang Fei, and talents generally look at risks.

Why did Liu Xiu raise troops and many Liu clans supported him, while Liu Bei raised almost no clan support?

Liu Bei raised troops only for the support of Guan Yu and Zhang Fei

At the end of the Eastern Han Dynasty, the clan was relatively strong, such as Jingzhou Mu Liu Biao, Yizhou Mu Liu Zhang, Youzhou Mu Liu Yu, etc., although these people had land, but they were not capable, although some locals took refuge in them, but they could not hold on, and they were not taken away.

3, Liu Xiu took the lead in raising troops, and Liu Bei had no first opportunity.

When Liu Xiu raised his army, it was the best time for the people of the world to rebel against the rule of the new dynasty, and Liu Xiu took the lead in raising troops, but Liu Xiu was not the first batch, nor was he a rising bird, so he naturally would not be targeted by the new dynasty, but only later developed and grew and was targeted.

Just like in the last years of the Qin Dynasty, Liu Bang and Xiang Yu, although they were not the earliest, took the lead, and at the same time they were not the first birds, it was easy to develop their power and become strong, and if they were strong, they would naturally have support.

Judging from the historical records, almost none of the Liu clansmen supported Liu Bei's army, and his uncle only supported Liu Bei's schooling, but did not support him to raise troops.

Although Liu Bei raised his army in 184 years after the outbreak of the Yellow Turban Rebellion, Liu Bei actually lost the opportunity.

Most of the larger political forces in the late Eastern Han Dynasty began to rise from the joint crusade against Dong Zhuo, such as Cao Cao, Sun Jian, and Yuan Shao, and in this political activity, Liu Bei did not participate, because he had no power, so he naturally lost the opportunity.

Why did Liu Xiu raise troops and many Liu clans supported him, while Liu Bei raised almost no clan support?

Liu Bei's army was started by fighting the Yellow Turban Army, and it was too late to establish power

When Cao Cao, Sun Jian, Yuan Shao and others fought for territory, Liu Bei took refuge everywhere and wandered around, Liu Bei really established power after the Battle of Chibi, at this time the situation in the world was clear, and all the territory that could be grabbed was almost robbed.

The north has been unified by Cao Cao, Jiangdong is occupied by Sun Quan, Yizhou is occupied by Liu Zhang, Hanzhong is occupied by Zhang Lu, and all forces have divided the talents and territory of the world.

And Liu Bei's hometown is in Zhuo County, Zhuo County (now Zhuozhou City, Hebei Province), which has long been controlled by Cao Cao, even if Liu Bei's clan wants to support him, it is impossible, as for the other Liu clans, naturally who is strong, who has the opportunity to unify the world, who will take refuge, obviously Cao Cao, not Liu Bei.