30% pay cut, forced to leave the job...

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Questions from readers:

Lin Gongzi, hello.

Recently, I have encountered some difficulties in the workplace, and I hope you can give me some analysis and guidance.

Here's the thing, last Friday, very suddenly, the supervisor and personnel came to talk to me, and the person had a meeting in advance, to the effect that the general environment is not good now, the company is in difficulty, and the leadership decided to remove the position I am in, and there are two people in this position.

Personnel went on to say: The leadership gave two plans, one is a job transfer, the other is a salary cut, I want to ask what I think, you can express it.

I was a little shocked and asked: What are the positions to be transferred, and the current positions are limited, and they are obviously not suitable for me.

At this time, you can think about what kind of position you are suitable for.

I thought to myself, can I give me a position if I think about it myself?

There was no possibility of a job transfer, so I then asked the supervisor: How much will the salary be reduced?

The supervisor answered: The leadership has set a tentative 30% policy.

I was stunned, my heart was cool, my salary was more than 5,000, and a 30% drop was less than 4,000 yuan.

I feel that the leader should want me to leave, but he doesn't want to compensate, so he uses this usual trick in the workplace.

I asked personnel frankly: then there are three ways now - transfer - salary reduction - dismissal.

Personnel immediately said that the leader still attaches great importance to friendship and has never said that he will be dismissed, but simply said that this position is not needed now.

The supervisor jokingly asked me: Do you think you have any other ideas? If we don't agree to the transfer and salary cut, are you going to say goodbye to us?

I smiled and said, "What can I think?"

The final result is that the supervisor says it's okay, you think slowly, don't worry, and communicate with me at any time if you have any ideas, and the interview is over.

My current situation:

In my city, more than 5,000 yuan is considered a medium salary, the company's platform is very good, and the benefits are also very good. The most important thing is that my child is currently in school in the company's subordinate kindergarten and primary school, and he has just been in school for a month and has just adapted well.

The conditions I would like to negotiate with the company are:

I don't really want to leave, I don't want to toss, I want to choose a salary cut, but I only accept a 10% salary cut, a maximum of 15% salary reduction.

If the company does not agree, can I adopt a tough model, refuse to transfer the position and salary, and if I want to be dismissed, I will apply for labor arbitration and ask for N+1 compensation.

Lin Gongzi, I would like to ask you to help analyze the company's intentions and my current situation, what to do, so that I can be minimally affected, thank you.

Lin Gongzi:

Hello, with your concrete question, I would like to give you a three-dimensional explanation of several underlying logics of "how to make decisions".

This kind of problem is encountered by many people, and most people make decisions that are not in their favor.

First, your thoughts.

I don't want to leave my job and want to choose a salary cut, but I only accept a 10%-15% salary reduction, and I don't accept a 30% salary reduction.

The idea is fine, you can also talk to the company first.

But there is a high probability that the company will not agree.

The company is supposed to reduce the cost of salary cuts, these ratios are usually calculated, if they all go according to the proportion that the employee wants, A says that he is only willing to reduce by 20%, B says that he is only willing to reduce by 10%, which is unrealistic.

After all, workers are weak, but employers are strong.

You said you wanted me to help analyze the company's intentions.

Actually, there is nothing to analyze.

In the past two years, the general environment has been bad, and for many companies, profits have decreased, and they can only reduce costs to maintain operations.

The method is basically these three axes: salary cut, job transfer, and persuasion (or dismissal).

We don't have to worry about the company's tricks, everything you have to do is how to make use of the existing conditions and maximize your own interests.

Second, if you can't get along, should you be tough?

Let me first share a case that I saw in the live broadcast room of lawyer Long Fei.

A 35-year-old housewife, whose second child is only 4 months old, found out that her husband was cheating.

The girl said that she and her husband settled abroad, her husband is Chinese, with an annual income of one million, very capable, very family-oriented, and very handsome, her husband's family has a head and face in the local area, and her parents-in-law also take good care of the children.

After discovering that her husband was cheating, the girl made a big fuss and everyone knew about it.

The husband originally didn't want to divorce, but the girl offered to sign the arrears of 500,000 yuan, and he agreed, and all other conditions were agreed.

was so troubled, my husband also planned to break the can.

And after the girl made a fuss, she found that her parents-in-law thought that "this is normal" and did not stand on her side at all.

So the girl found a good way out:

I got a job in China, 7,000 yuan/month.

Now I wonder whether to go back to my home country and start over, or continue this marriage?

Lawyer Long Fei said a sentence, which I often told you before-

The lesser of two powers.

1. When you go back to China to work, it will be difficult to see your two children again in the future. There aren't many holidays off at work, and it's unlikely that people will come back to see you with their two children.

It is equivalent to giving up two children.

2. Give up a husband who earns millions a year, has good family economic conditions, and is usually good to you and your children.

3. Give up the current life of worry-free food and clothing.

One is to endure the pain of being separated from your children in a foreign country + endure the gap of returning to ordinary life,

The other is to endure the hurt of her husband's betrayal,

Judge which is more important, and the answer may become clear.

So the same Ha:

"In my city, more than 5,000 yuan is considered a moderate salary. ”

"The company's platform is very good"

"The benefits are also very good. ”

"The most important thing is that my child is currently attending school in the company's kindergarten and primary school, and he has just been in school for a month and has just adapted well. ”

Which is more serious, the harm of giving up or the harm of accepting a 30% pay cut?

Judging from this point of view, it will be much clearer.

Third, the cost of doing it VS the return.

If the company does not agree to your request, you intend to "apply for labor arbitration and claim N+1 compensation".

So this thing:

What are the rewards?

The most ideal is N+1 (but from the cases I have been exposed to, it is difficult to get 100% of the time when you really go through arbitration).

What are the costs?

1. Time cost

I talked about a colleague's arbitration case before, his former company owed more than 3 months of wages, and it has been almost two years since the money was returned.

dragged until the small company went out of business, and then the boss could not be found.

In this process, employees have to communicate with the company's management, fight wits and courage, collect evidence, find a lawyer for consultation, sort out materials, go to court, and continue to sue if they are not satisfied with the results... The cost of time invested is not small.

2. Opportunity cost

My colleague spent a lot of energy in the early stage of arbitration, and it took two or three months to free up his hands to find a job, and it was already the end of the year, and it was difficult to find a job.

When I finally found it, it was already March of the following year.

Colleagues are development positions, and the average salary in the market is about 10,000-12,000 yuan/month.

In the first and second half of the year, the opportunity cost here is considerable.

The cost of return < is that the gains outweigh the losses.

Fourth, you must understand what you want and then act towards that goal.

Cut back to Lawyer Long Fei's case just now.

Lawyer Long Fei said that if it were her, she should not give up all this easily: two children, a husband with a good income who usually treats him well, parents-in-law who can take good care of the children, and living conditions without worrying about food and clothing...

She may even apologize to her husband:

"I really can't bear you, and I can't bear these two children, I don't know why I'm so impulsive to make everyone know. Because I am very hurt by this, please understand.

I thought about it and looked back and thought that I really shouldn't have made a big deal out of it.

I'm sorry if it hurt you.

I still want to have a good time with you. ”

You must not say that you should look at the other person's attitude first and then make your own decision.

No, let's learn to take the initiative!

If you look at the other party's attitude, there is a high probability that you will be disappointed, and the conversation will collapse at that time.

Waiting to see the attitude of others and then deciding your own attitude is wrong.

It should be-

What I want determines my attitude, what I say + what I want to do.

Well, I think that's the best stance when it comes to making a decision.

It is very applicable whether it is marriage or work or life.

Combined with the points I said earlier:

You think about it first,

What do you get if you don't accept a 30% pay cut to stay?

If you have to be fired by the company, what do you get by going through labor arbitration;

What you gain is greater than what you lose.

If you plan to stay (either for a long time, or for the time being, it is convenient to ride a donkey and find a horse),

Is it possible to get a job that you are satisfied with?

whether there is room for negotiation in salary;

How to express to the leader that he wants to stay.

In the end, the probability of getting a relatively ideal will be greatly increased.

Good luck.

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About the Author:

Lin Gongzi is a senior product manager of a Fortune 500 company who has been mixed with first-tier Internet companies in the workplace, and is a contracted author of a workplace/financial platform, a partner of a media company, and a real estate investor at home and abroad. Focus on [Workplace Dry Goods] and [Self-media Dry Goods].